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putting forth the petition for the middle class tax cuts in the house. >> like that. >> stephanie: a little something for everybody this morning. here she is, jacki schechner for everybody. in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody! president obama is meeting with business leaders again today to talk about the consequences of going over the fiscal cliff. he's also claiming to call on congressional leaders to make sure we raise the debt ceiling without contention. the white house making the case that extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class is directly connected to the health of our businesses. companies need to know consumers will be able to spend and in his first post-election interview president obama again rejected the house republican counteroffer that is on the table. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. we're going to have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> let's hope he sticks to it. >> g.o.p. leaders aren't only dealing with the president and congressional
putting forth the petition for the middle class tax cuts in the house. >> like that. >> stephanie: a little something for everybody this morning. here she is, jacki schechner for everybody. in the current news center. >> good morning, everybody! president obama is meeting with business leaders again today to talk about the consequences of going over the fiscal cliff. he's also claiming to call on congressional leaders to make sure we raise the debt ceiling without contention....
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obama doesn't have a mandate to raise taxes. george bush cut taxes with a minus half a million margin in the polls. so if that isn't enough of a mandate to do something about taxes, what is with the loss? >> we're going to miss you congressman frank. ending an incredible career in massachusetts. thank you so much. we're going to have you back, if we can. >> i'll be around. >> i'm going to ask you what you miss positively and negatively from the congress. thank for coming on tonight. >> you're welcome. >>> when we return, let me finish with whether the politicians will be able to do what's necessary this this month. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. >>> let me finish tonight with something important about leave leading this country through a difficult time. it's about barack obama's job description. if you read the newspapers, you see the fiscal catastrophe of greece. right now, the world is looking at us. the whole world. people as far away as hong kong. people have to make sharp decision about money and they a
obama doesn't have a mandate to raise taxes. george bush cut taxes with a minus half a million margin in the polls. so if that isn't enough of a mandate to do something about taxes, what is with the loss? >> we're going to miss you congressman frank. ending an incredible career in massachusetts. thank you so much. we're going to have you back, if we can. >> i'll be around. >> i'm going to ask you what you miss positively and negatively from the congress. thank for coming on...
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obama doesn't have a mandate to raise taxes. george bush cut taxes with a minus half a million mar jib gi the polls. so if that isn't enough of a mandate to do something about taxes, what is with the loss? >> we're going to miss you congressman frank. ending an incredible career in massachusetts. thank you so much. we're going to have you back, if we can. >> i'll be around. >> i'm going to ask you what you miss positively and negatively from the congress. thank for coming on tonight. >> you're welcome. >>> when we return, let me finish with whether the politicians will be able to do what's necessary this this month. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. should be in charge of their own future. how they'll live tomorrow. for more than 116 years, ameriprise financial has worked for their clients' futures. helping millions of americans retire on their terms. when they want. where they want. doing what they want. ameriprise. the strength of a leader in retirement planning. the heart of 10,000 advisors working with you
obama doesn't have a mandate to raise taxes. george bush cut taxes with a minus half a million mar jib gi the polls. so if that isn't enough of a mandate to do something about taxes, what is with the loss? >> we're going to miss you congressman frank. ending an incredible career in massachusetts. thank you so much. we're going to have you back, if we can. >> i'll be around. >> i'm going to ask you what you miss positively and negatively from the congress. thank for coming on...
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and it's not raising taxes on them, it's letting the old tax cuts expire as they were supposed to do two years ago. >> thank you. >> stephanie: good morning, congress woman judy chu. >> good morning. >> stephanie: thanks for take time with us. >> it's great to be with you. >> stephanie: i'm sure you are looking at the same polls i am the vast majority of americans agree with him exactly on these issues, right? >> exactly. in fact it is really upside down. the people who lost the election are protecting the top 2% the people who won the election are fighting to protect the tax rate of 98% of americans. >> stephanie: thank you. i thought i read this wrong this morning. i don't think john boehner understands what compromise means. the president reduced the income from $12.2 billion, and boehner responded with the exact same proposal. >> it's not a compromise. in fact i would say that republicans don't want taxes to go up on the middle class, so why aren't we reaching an agreement? the only reason we are now is if republicans are too stubborn to reach a compromise. >> stephanie: right. b
and it's not raising taxes on them, it's letting the old tax cuts expire as they were supposed to do two years ago. >> thank you. >> stephanie: good morning, congress woman judy chu. >> good morning. >> stephanie: thanks for take time with us. >> it's great to be with you. >> stephanie: i'm sure you are looking at the same polls i am the vast majority of americans agree with him exactly on these issues, right? >> exactly. in fact it is really upside...
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obama wants to cut $500 billion out of medicare. not true. a lot of his key arguments, and, of course, the jeep ad at the end. >> the one that offends me the most is the apology tour. it's foundational. he's putting that down in the ground. and i want to get joan in here. he puts that down and says sort of his takeoff platform. he's apologizing but i'll be a robust patriot. i'll defend america against anything foe or friend because i'm a real american. and this guy because he recognizes we live in a world of other countries that are decent countries. they're not all the enemy out there. this right wing attitude it's just us or just us and israel against all these evil third world people and they're just crazy about that. it's so dangerous. >> to finish this point for one second. the thing is -- and this is what ornstein was saying too. that his campaign was based on a lot of major big sweeping lies. now, you can look at obama and point out that he made a mistake, misrepresented obama's policy in this way and that way. but that the overall cas
obama wants to cut $500 billion out of medicare. not true. a lot of his key arguments, and, of course, the jeep ad at the end. >> the one that offends me the most is the apology tour. it's foundational. he's putting that down in the ground. and i want to get joan in here. he puts that down and says sort of his takeoff platform. he's apologizing but i'll be a robust patriot. i'll defend america against anything foe or friend because i'm a real american. and this guy because he recognizes...
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president obama has put spending cuts on the table. he's put an increase in the tax rates for the wealthiest americans on the table. we've put making sure that we have p get a tremendous amount of savings out of the entitlement programs. what have the republicans put on the table? virtually nothing. it is time to be rational and compromise. >> to that point, what haley barber said this morning about the possibility of compromise. he was on "morning joe" today. >> as a republican, i would take raising the rates on the two top brackets if, in return, we had tax reform laid out over a period of months, if we had entitlement reform. i would hold my nose despite the facts that raising those two tax is bad economics, bad for jobs, going to hurt the economy. i would hold my nose to get the other done. what i wouldn't do is vote for that and do nothing else. >> does he have a point? are democrats really prepared to deal with entitlement reform to maybe substantive cuts, the kinds the republicans are calling for? >> chris, hail by barbour menti
president obama has put spending cuts on the table. he's put an increase in the tax rates for the wealthiest americans on the table. we've put making sure that we have p get a tremendous amount of savings out of the entitlement programs. what have the republicans put on the table? virtually nothing. it is time to be rational and compromise. >> to that point, what haley barber said this morning about the possibility of compromise. he was on "morning joe" today. >> as a...
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return in dribs and drabs on the american middle class, they keep the majority of revenue, spending cuts can be finessed. lou: we looked at total spending under boehner plan and as we understand them obama plan, and no plan, they end ought about the -- end at about the same place in 2022. this is madness. >> the obama drama that is surrounding this negotiation. over an inconsequential increase of a tax over 2%, and no affect, across 10 years of national debt that is madness. >> this is nuts, it is unnecessary, but this is politics, it has nothing to do with policy. lou: and who is the beneficiary of that? >> well, look, president obama ran on this he was elected with a margin that is substantial enough to warrant this public opinion supports him, public opinion supports his position, and public opinion will support obama over the republicans if we go over the cliff, he will go over the cliff rather than take a bad deal. and making sure that tax rates on wealthiest go up is a big part of that deal. >> he ran on half of tax increases proposing, he ran on a planned approach, i'm sorry this
return in dribs and drabs on the american middle class, they keep the majority of revenue, spending cuts can be finessed. lou: we looked at total spending under boehner plan and as we understand them obama plan, and no plan, they end ought about the -- end at about the same place in 2022. this is madness. >> the obama drama that is surrounding this negotiation. over an inconsequential increase of a tax over 2%, and no affect, across 10 years of national debt that is madness. >> this...
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president obama has not offered a specific plan for spending cuts. he has offered economic stimulus for job creation, but he has offered about $400 billion in medicare cuts as a starting point. president obama seems to be going to the mat on raising the top tax brackets for houses burning $250,000 or more, and this is what the republicans for political and historical reasons have had the most trouble. host: house republicans, according to "usa today," -- guest: the best indicator of that would be the budget passed by the house by paul ryan, and it includes budget category cuts lead in transportation, or social services for income security. it does not get to the specific program-level, but he is talking about a 26% cut in transportation, which analysts have extrapolated and could mean a huge cuts in the number of air-traffic controllers, for example which would cause flight delays and cancellations. they would have to get more specific later on. that is the general framework. host: how much does domestic spending consume of our federal government? gu
president obama has not offered a specific plan for spending cuts. he has offered economic stimulus for job creation, but he has offered about $400 billion in medicare cuts as a starting point. president obama seems to be going to the mat on raising the top tax brackets for houses burning $250,000 or more, and this is what the republicans for political and historical reasons have had the most trouble. host: house republicans, according to "usa today," -- guest: the best indicator of...
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president obama rejected the latest proposal from john boehner. the president and the democrats are focused on revenue and they are determined to make sure that the top tax rates go up. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> harry reid wasted no time explaining why the boehner proposal is not serious. >> math. you can't get from here to there unless you raise the rates. that's why romney couldn't explain it during the presidential election. no one can explain it because you can't do it. >> jay carney says the speaker's plans raises more questions than answers. >> we don't know who pays. we don't know what we're talking about in terms of actual legislation to increase revenues. it's magic beans and ferry dust. >> john boehner's heavy-handed approach to leadership, boehner and the republican steering committee kicked four republican congressmen out of the
president obama rejected the latest proposal from john boehner. the president and the democrats are focused on revenue and they are determined to make sure that the top tax rates go up. >> unfortunately, the speaker's proposal right now is still out of balance. he talks, for example, about $800 billion worth of revenues, but he says he's going to do that by lowering rates. when you look at the math, it doesn't work. >> harry reid wasted no time explaining why the boehner proposal is...
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that would let president obama pocket $1 trillion in tax revenue and secure a win on his key priority in the talks. but they would do nothing else. at the end of the year, we would still go over the fiscal cliff. remember, the bush tax cuts are one of the at least stimulative policies in the negotiations. according to the economic policy institute, extending the middle class tax cuts would wipe out only about 11% of the austerity's economic impact. 11%. but all that other stuff, the payroll tax cut, the unemployment insurance, the sequester, all that, that would still be expiring. so come early next year, the economy would likely be entering an austerity-induced recession. markets would be convulsing as they realize our austerity crisis is about to become also a default crisis. and so the economy, as a whole, is going to be going nuts. poll after poll already shows republicans are receiving more blame for the potential failure of the debt talks. and after telling the press they're going to make a strategic decision to use a debt ceiling as more and more dangerous leverage, they're lik
that would let president obama pocket $1 trillion in tax revenue and secure a win on his key priority in the talks. but they would do nothing else. at the end of the year, we would still go over the fiscal cliff. remember, the bush tax cuts are one of the at least stimulative policies in the negotiations. according to the economic policy institute, extending the middle class tax cuts would wipe out only about 11% of the austerity's economic impact. 11%. but all that other stuff, the payroll tax...
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. >> the new associated press poll finds 48% of americans want tax cuts for wealthy to expire. and it says more people want to cut government services than raise taxes to reduce the federal deficit. >> now, if the nation goes over the cliff at the end of the year, it's going to affect everyone, including the unemployed, as abc's jonathan karl reports. >> reporter: melinda vega has been put on notice. if congress and the president don't get their act together, her unemployment checks will stop immediately at the end of the year. >> we're dependent on that money to pay our bills. >> reporter: she's been without a job for a year. her $450 a week unemployment check her life line. >> we won't be able to pay some of our bills and, i mean, you know, that's for christmas and things of that nature, probably off the table. >> reporter: she is not alone. without a deal, unemployment compensation will end for more than 2 million people out of work more than 26 weeks. many of the unemployed started receiving the news this week from prerecorded phone calls like this one in washington state.
. >> the new associated press poll finds 48% of americans want tax cuts for wealthy to expire. and it says more people want to cut government services than raise taxes to reduce the federal deficit. >> now, if the nation goes over the cliff at the end of the year, it's going to affect everyone, including the unemployed, as abc's jonathan karl reports. >> reporter: melinda vega has been put on notice. if congress and the president don't get their act together, her unemployment...
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. >> what does obama want that's not in the fiscal cliff -- he wants what's in the fiscal cliff. it's defense cuts and tax hikes. we're compromising with someone who doesn't want to compromise. he likes that stuff. i know he doesn't want to raise taxes on the middle class. but we have to give up everything in this deal. we should articulate our principles or give him what he wants. we're going to vote present and say -- >> boehner's doing the best he can. he's playing a short deck right now. >> you really think he's the best spokesman for conservatism. >> no, no. >> we should put a paul ryan -- we need younger leadership. >> paul ryan came out publicly in support of boehner. that's point number one. secondly, boehner jumped ryan over more senior people to put him as head of the budget committee. that's my second point. and boehner himself is being advised by ryan every step of the way. >> what do you say about this purge then? he's purging people that wants to balance the budget. >> you lost, ron. don't blame boehner. blame the republican party. blame conservatives. jim demint sa
. >> what does obama want that's not in the fiscal cliff -- he wants what's in the fiscal cliff. it's defense cuts and tax hikes. we're compromising with someone who doesn't want to compromise. he likes that stuff. i know he doesn't want to raise taxes on the middle class. but we have to give up everything in this deal. we should articulate our principles or give him what he wants. we're going to vote present and say -- >> boehner's doing the best he can. he's playing a short deck...
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tax cut. they're going to have to vote against it. the first vote of this new congress, they're going to have to vote against a middle class tax cut. no win for these guys if they don't pass it in the next week. they can't word it between now and then. crafting a bill actually takes some time and some process. >> stephanie: yep. megan in akron ohio. hi welcome. >> caller: hi. i just have a question for you. about the viability of a challenge to this in michigan. what can they do? >> stephanie: megan, i was doing that story earlier that the unions are saying -- this fight is not over. there may be a way you know, to be able to -- i don't know the technical term for it. basically to be able to put it back -- >> negative ballot initiative. some other options. >> stephanie: if they get enough signatures -- >> the history is not on their side. every time they try to do that, it has been -- >> stephanie: look at sb5 in ohio. take heart from that. i want to ask you quickly -- [ ♪ "world news tonigh
tax cut. they're going to have to vote against it. the first vote of this new congress, they're going to have to vote against a middle class tax cut. no win for these guys if they don't pass it in the next week. they can't word it between now and then. crafting a bill actually takes some time and some process. >> stephanie: yep. megan in akron ohio. hi welcome. >> caller: hi. i just have a question for you. about the viability of a challenge to this in michigan. what can they do?...
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if it's acceptable -- if john boehner and barack obama cut a deal, it will pass the senate and the house no matter what nancy pelosi wants. >> i disagree with that. >> we have agreed so far on almost everything so. >> not here to necessarily agree. >> not 95, '96, gingrich who could dictate. if john boehner did which was walk into the caucus and say accept this or i am leaving, they will say bye. same thing with obama. the democratic caucus thinks they have the leverage >> bill: 20 minutes. here stan collender lendcollender. i am going to ask you about apple announcing that they are going to have a whole new line of computer manufacturing in the united states and what that means leading up to the job numbers at the bottom of the hour. "full-court press," friday december 7th. >> this is the if you recall court press. , the bill res show live on your radio and on current t.v. street, destruction of medicare and medicaid. there are real issues here. having been a governor, i know that trade-offs are tough. things everyday exploding around the world that leave no shortage for exciting conver
if it's acceptable -- if john boehner and barack obama cut a deal, it will pass the senate and the house no matter what nancy pelosi wants. >> i disagree with that. >> we have agreed so far on almost everything so. >> not here to necessarily agree. >> not 95, '96, gingrich who could dictate. if john boehner did which was walk into the caucus and say accept this or i am leaving, they will say bye. same thing with obama. the democratic caucus thinks they have the leverage...
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president obama lowered the amount from 1.6 to $1.4 trillion. that's not good enough for the republicans holding out for cuts to programs like social security. congressional leaders warn lawmakers not to make holiday travel plans. they will work to the last minute. >>> it's been a busy morning for all things business. >> certainly. he has plenty of new numbers from washington and some new maps from apple and this would be jason brooks with kcbs and cbsmoneywatch.com. good morning. >> good morning. >> reporter: and we have some decent news on the economy but that's largely being overshadowed by the "fiscal cliff" talks. a lot of worries on wall street if an agreement can't be reached by the end of the year. but as far as of the economy goes, decent news especially on the job market. the labor department reporting that first time unemployment claims fell by 29,000 to 343,000 the lowest level in two months and the second lowest level of the year. it suggests hiring is outpacing firing. the four-week average down to 381,000, still an effect from san
president obama lowered the amount from 1.6 to $1.4 trillion. that's not good enough for the republicans holding out for cuts to programs like social security. congressional leaders warn lawmakers not to make holiday travel plans. they will work to the last minute. >>> it's been a busy morning for all things business. >> certainly. he has plenty of new numbers from washington and some new maps from apple and this would be jason brooks with kcbs and cbsmoneywatch.com. good...
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republicans offered president obama a proposal that retained the bush tax cuts for the wealthy, and now they say the ball is in the president's court. >> this week we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> both sides promise to cut trillions from government spending over the next decade, but the republicans insist they can do it without raising taxes on the rich. president obama insists that's a nonstarter. he shared his message with rich folks at the business round table. he told them they could handle paying more in taxes. >> let's allow higher rates to go up for the top 2%, that includes all of you, yes. but not in any way that will affect your spending, your lifestyles, or the economy in any significant way. >> business round table is a lobby group made up of some of the country's biggest ceos, ceos of some of the country's bigg gt companies. if you don't know what the fiscal cliff is, you've probably been living under a rock. i found this explanation. this is mr. burns from
republicans offered president obama a proposal that retained the bush tax cuts for the wealthy, and now they say the ball is in the president's court. >> this week we made a good faith offer to avert the fiscal crisis. now we need a response from the white house. we can't sit here and negotiate with ourselves. >> both sides promise to cut trillions from government spending over the next decade, but the republicans insist they can do it without raising taxes on the rich. president...
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says he will only agree to a deal that raises tax rates on top earners. >> we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or cut our way out of this deficit problem. we are going to need more revenues. in order to do that that start with higher rates for the folk at the top. the reasonien, the reason i say that is not to punish success or go after folk just because they are wealthy. it's a simple proposition that you can't raise enough revenue and if you don't raise enough revenue through closing loopholes abductions, it's going to be middle class families that make up the difference. bill: john boehner will speak later this hour. we'll see how he responds to that comment. if washington can't get a deep, automatic tax increases and massive spending cuts do take effect. martha: west virginia senator joe manchin, a democrat discussing the fiscal cliff, social security within medicare. he believes they must be run more efficiently. >> last year the office of budget management says $115 billion was misspent. that's a tremendous savings right there. they are both much lower than everyone
says he will only agree to a deal that raises tax rates on top earners. >> we are not going to simply cut our way to prosperity or cut our way out of this deficit problem. we are going to need more revenues. in order to do that that start with higher rates for the folk at the top. the reasonien, the reason i say that is not to punish success or go after folk just because they are wealthy. it's a simple proposition that you can't raise enough revenue and if you don't raise enough revenue...
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racheting up the rhetoric. >> we can and should do more than just extend middle class tax cuts. and i stand ready to work with republicans or a plan that spurs economic growth, creates jobs and reduces our deficit. a plan that gives both sides some of what they want. >> tax increases will not solve our $16 trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of entitlement programs will help control the debt. we must reform our complicated, uncertain job-killing tax code by getting rid of unjustifi loo holls. >> molly ball and david nakamura. thanks for joining me. >> good to be here. >> david so house speaker john boehner says there's no progress to report. the white house says republicans are to blame for dragging their feet. it seems at least publicly we're getting nowhere. is there anything bigger churning behind the scenes? >> alex, i wish i had good news for you. there's not much going on. certainly at the staff level there's still talks going on. the president did have an onization with john boehner. both sides publicly at least are blaming the others for delaying here. i thi
racheting up the rhetoric. >> we can and should do more than just extend middle class tax cuts. and i stand ready to work with republicans or a plan that spurs economic growth, creates jobs and reduces our deficit. a plan that gives both sides some of what they want. >> tax increases will not solve our $16 trillion debt. only economic growth and a reform of entitlement programs will help control the debt. we must reform our complicated, uncertain job-killing tax code by getting rid...
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, albeit disproportionately to defense spending but it's better than accepting obama's terms crammed down our throat. boehner needs to paint obama as the one who is holding the country hostage. he wants to talk about holding the middle class hostage? no it's him holding the entire country hostage and our kids hostage, with his krin call refuse ool to enter the entitlement reform game. >> wow, he is really bad. >> stephanie: yeah i can see why he didn't get the radio show. >> sheky. >> stephanie: that was so merrill osmond. >> merrill was kind of the leader. >> stephanie: i dove donnie. steve doocy. >> europe is great because they have wonderful food and runny cheeses, but we shouldn't base our policies on theirs because they are stinkers. >> we should base it on singapore where they have no unemployment, and they have a competitive market. that protects workers. >> stephanie: we should be like singapore? >> oh my god. holy crap. he is a bigger idiot than i thought. he is not even trying to hide what a douche bag he is. >> stephanie: okay. bill o'reilly. really? is this his whole dece
, albeit disproportionately to defense spending but it's better than accepting obama's terms crammed down our throat. boehner needs to paint obama as the one who is holding the country hostage. he wants to talk about holding the middle class hostage? no it's him holding the entire country hostage and our kids hostage, with his krin call refuse ool to enter the entitlement reform game. >> wow, he is really bad. >> stephanie: yeah i can see why he didn't get the radio show. >>...
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focuses on cutting spending and not just raidsing taxes. we want to live in an america where it is easier for middle class families to find those jobs, not harder. we want to live in an america where our job creators are able to ex-tand -- to expand and they're not forced to make the difficult cuts. and we want our children to grow up in an america where their opportunities are limitless. that's what the fiscal cliff is all about. it's about people. not politics. it's about protecting america's future. not repeating the mistakes of the past. with that, i'm proud to introduce my colleague, christi -- kristi noem from south dakota. >> good afternoon. thank all of you for coming. i was having a conversation with my 10-year-old son the other day, talking about lessons i had learn from my grandfather. my grandfather had always taught me that those people you are indebted to, they control you. they control your decisions, your opportunities, and what your future is going to be. right now, the amount of debt our children have sit ogen their heads
focuses on cutting spending and not just raidsing taxes. we want to live in an america where it is easier for middle class families to find those jobs, not harder. we want to live in an america where our job creators are able to ex-tand -- to expand and they're not forced to make the difficult cuts. and we want our children to grow up in an america where their opportunities are limitless. that's what the fiscal cliff is all about. it's about people. not politics. it's about protecting america's...
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the senate has already passed the centerpiece of president obama's offer. and his offer has always been the same. we are not going to go through the same thing we've gone through here for years where we lay out different ways to cut spending, and there's never any revenue. the president has made it very, very clear. we have already passed the president's proposal. that is to make sure that people making less than $250,000 a year are not burdened with $2,200 each after the first of the year. that passed in july. the house can take that up. there's already been -- every democrat in the house has agreed they will vote for that. we need only 25 or 26 republicans in the house to make life something that's stable for people making less than $250,000 a year. the presiding officer: the senator from arizona. mr. mccain: mr. president, could i ask my friend from maryland if he has spoken yet on the magnitsky portion of this bill? the presiding officer: the senator from maryland. mr. cardin: we have not yet gotten to the bill. i believe that we're prepared now to go t
the senate has already passed the centerpiece of president obama's offer. and his offer has always been the same. we are not going to go through the same thing we've gone through here for years where we lay out different ways to cut spending, and there's never any revenue. the president has made it very, very clear. we have already passed the president's proposal. that is to make sure that people making less than $250,000 a year are not burdened with $2,200 each after the first of the year....
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president obama and i guess the democratic leaders said we won't even talk about it. no money, no savings, no review of food stamps. it can't be changed. it should be left alone. well, that's not a good plan. i as the ranking member on the budget committee have begun to look at the program to see how it is we have had such great increases. now the agriculture establishment says that every single dollar that's spent is needed for hungry people. i offered an amendment that would have reduced spending over ten years from $800 billion total to $792 billion, reducing spending by $8 billion based on closing a loophole, a categorical eligibility gimmick that should not be there, allowing people to receive benefits that didn't qualify for them. and it was said oh, you want people to be hungry. he was voted down. i thought it was a very modest, reasonable change. by the way, the agriculture spending in our government is different than a lot of people think. mr. president, what is the status of our time? the presiding officer: time for morning business has expired, sir. mr. ses
president obama and i guess the democratic leaders said we won't even talk about it. no money, no savings, no review of food stamps. it can't be changed. it should be left alone. well, that's not a good plan. i as the ranking member on the budget committee have begun to look at the program to see how it is we have had such great increases. now the agriculture establishment says that every single dollar that's spent is needed for hungry people. i offered an amendment that would have reduced...